The Bluebell Railway’s Carriage Stock
(including other Passenger-Rated stock)
We have a large and diverse collection of rolling stock on the Bluebell Railway, built up over the years since we started in 1960. These include gems such as the Metropolitan Railway stock, which is the only close-coupled standard-gauge train in the country. We have five Pullman cars, from the 1920s and ’50s, an unrivalled collection of old LBSCR, SECR, LSWR and Southern Railway carriages, plus the unusual and unique 1913 built LNWR Observation Car and the venerable Great Northern Railway Directors’ Saloon.
Right: Restored London, Chatham & Dover Railway carriages Nos.3360 of 1889 and 3188 of 1897, seen on the evening of 3188’s re-launch into service, 18 June 2016. The carriage bodies had been used as bungalows from 1925 and 1935, and were rescued by the Bluebell in 2003 and 2005. They both now run on adapted SR van underframes. No.3360 was adapted to carry passengers in wheelchairs thanks to a “People’s Millions” grant from the Big Lottery Fund.
Two old London Brighton & South Coast Railway carriages have been restored to traffic after 68 and 80 years out of use, and another two are currently being restored. All four were recovered after more than half a century as dwellings, and have been mounted on suitably modified underframes.
Passenger rated stock is that which could be included in passenger trains. It includes luggage vans, carriage trucks, horse boxes, perishable produce vans and milk tankers.
The list shows vehicle number, type, (building date), and alternative numbers carried at various times in the vehicle’s history. Links from coach numbers are to photographs and full details of each vehicle.
Operational carriage stock – Carriages under overhaul – Carriages formerly based on the Bluebell
London Brighton & South Coast Railway (LBSCR)
|35||4-compt Second (c1856) [dismantled body only]|
|94||Full Brake (c1858) [body and underframe]|
|204||Quadrant-windowed 3-compt First (c1866) (Original No. Unknown, 204 as 2nd) [dismantled body only] – see Ian White’s web page|
|221||Brake 2nd/3rd (1852 or 1859) (Original No. Unknown, 221 as Bk.3rd) [will be rebuilt after fire]|
|328||4w Main-line Third (1890) [Under Restoration]|
|661||Main-line First (1880) (originally 6w, now 4w) (Suburban Brake 2nd 262 (1909), Brake 3rd 1648) [Operational]|
|676||4w Suburban Brake Third (1875) [body only]|
|725||4w Main-line Brake Third (1878) [dismantled body sections only]|
|949||4w Suburban Brake Third (1881) [Under Restoration]|
|992||4w Main-line Third (1880) [body only]|
|20th Century LBSCR carriages:|
|60||Directors’ Saloon (1913)|
|7598||First (1903) (LBSCR 142) [Operational]|
London Chatham & Dover Railway (LCDR)
|48||6-wheel Brake 2nd (1894) (Brake 3rd 2781, SR 3630 (1927))|
|114||4-wheel Brake 3rd (1889) (Brake 2nd 106, Brake 3rd 114 (1891), 548 (1899), 3068 (1903)) [Operational]|
|3188||28′ 3rd (1897) (LCDR 668, SECR 3188 (1907), Brake 3rd, SR 3652 (1926)) [Operational]|
|3360||4-wheel semi-saloon (1889) (built as Brake 2nd 51, Brake 3rd 285 (1897), SECR 3360 (1901)) [Operational]|
South Eastern Railway (SER)
|33||Drawing Room Car (1891) – Later Pullman Car “Constance” [body in two sections]|
|172||1st Saloon (1898) (later brake 1st) (SR 7874) [body only]|
|1050||Composite (later all 3rd) (1897/9, reconstructed by SR in 1924) (SER 568 and 792, SECR 1440, SR 5546)|
|18??||Brake 3rd (1877-8) (One of four, numbered 1887-90) [body only]|
|2159||6-compartment 3rd (1887) [body only]|
South Eastern & Chatham Railway (SECR)
|950||Birdcage 2nd Saloon Brake (later 3rd) (1907) (3582) [Not Bluebell stock; in private ownership]|
|971||“100 seater” 3rd (1923) (1434) [Withdrawn pending overhaul]|
|1061||Birdcage 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1909) (3334)|
|1098||“100 seater” 3rd (1922) (1416) [Operational]|
|1170||Birdcage 3rd Brake (1912) (3410)|
|1440||Composite (see 1050 under SER Carriages above) – probably for use as centre coach for Birdcage trio set|
|3363||Birdcage Lavatory 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1910) (SECR 1084, DS22) [Operational]|
London & South Western Railway (LSWR)
|25||34′ family saloon (1885) (SR 0905 and 7937)|
|320||Lavatory 3rd (1900, rebuilt and lengthened in 1935) (1228, 288)|
|494||Corridor 3rd (1911) (673)|
|1520||Lavatory Brake 3rd (1910) (2975) [Operational]|
|368||Composite (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (515, 9702) [Operational]|
|387||Brake 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (512, 2761) [Operational]|
|394||Full 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1900) (518, 6702) [Operational]|
|412||Composite (Built by Cravens, 1900) (516, 9705) [Operational]|
Great Northern Railway (GNR)
|43909||Directors’ Saloon (1897) (706, 706E, 942090) [Operational] – see the Howlden Trust’s Web page|
London & North Western Railway (LNWR)
|1503||Observation Car (1913) (LMS 5316, 15843) [Operational]|
Southern Railway Maunsell Carriages (1923-39)
(all are Restriction 4 (i.e. 9ft wide), unless stated otherwise)
|1309||Open Third (1935) [Operational]|
|1336||“Drop-Light” Open Third (1933) [Operational]|
|1365||built 1927: Dining Third 7866, redesignated Open Third 1365, 1930, Ambulance 6802 in 1944 and Compo Diner 7841 in 1947|
|2356||Corridor Third (Restriction 1, i.e. 8ft 6in wide) (1931)|
|3687||Corridor Third Brake (Restriction 0, i.e. 8ft wide for Hastings line) (1931) [Under Restoration]|
|3724||Corridor Third Brake (1930)|
|4441||Nondescript Brake (could be used for 1st, 2nd or 3rd class as required) (Restriction 1) (1933)|
|4444||Nondescript Brake (Restriction 1) (1933)|
|4922||Sorting Carriage for Travelling Post Offices (1939)|
|5644||Corridor Composite (1930)|
|6575||Corridor Brake Composite (1929)|
|6686||Corridor Brake Composite (1935) [Operational]|
|7864||Restaurant Car (1932, rebuilt 1947 as Kitchen Buffet) – [Fundraising]|
Southern Railway designed Bulleid Carriages (1945-52)
|1456||Open Third (1947) [Operational] – On long term loan to Mid Hants Railway|
|1464||Open Third (1950)|
|1481||Open Third (1950)|
|1482||Open Third (1950) [Operational]|
|2515||Saloon Third Brake* (1951)|
|2526||Saloon Third Brake* (1951) [Operational]|
|4227||Saloon Third Brake* with Coupé (i.e. half) compartment (1948)|
|4279||Saloon Third Brake* (1949)|
|5768||Corridor Composite (1947) [Operational]|
|* denotes “semi-open type”|
Pullman and Compagnie Internationale de Wagons-Lits
|89||“Constance”||Pullman Kitchen 1st – see South Eastern Railway Car 33 above|
|157||“Car No.54”||Pullman Brake 3rd (1923) [Under overhaul]|
|175||“Fingall”||Pullman Kitchen 1st (1924) [Operational]|
|194||“Car No.36”||Pullman Parlour Brake 3rd (1926) [Stored awaiting overhaul]|
|219||“Christine”||Pullman 3rd (formerly “Car No.64”) (1928) [Operational]|
|229||“Lilian”||Pullman 3rd (formerly “Car No.76”) (1928) – For Sale – please enquire|
|307||“Carina”||Pullman Kitchen 1st (1951)|
|3801||CIWL||Night Ferry Wagons-Lits (1939) – Potentially for sale|
London Midland & Scottish Railway Carriages
(These three carriages are used for overnight sleeping accommodation for volunteers)
– see also the LMS BGZ
|398||LMS/BR 1st Sleeper (1952) [at Sheffield Park] – For Sale – please enquire|
|603||LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1951) [at Horsted Keynes] – For Sale – please enquire|
|623||LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1952) [at Horsted Keynes] – For Sale – please enquire|
British Railways Standard Steam Stock (Mk.I)
|1674||RBR||Restaurant-Buffet (Refurbished) (1961) [Operational]|
|1818||RMB||Restaurant Miniature Buffet (1960) [Operational]|
|1838||RMB||Restaurant Miniature Buffet (1959) [Awaiting overhaul]|
|3064||FO||Open First (1955) [Operational]|
|3069||FO||Open First (1955) [Operational]|
|4754||SO||Open Second (64 seats) (1957) (Bicester Military Railway WGP 8806) [Under overhaul]|
|4824||SO||Open Second (48 seats) (1959) [Operational]|
|4941||Saloon||(formerly SO) (1962) [Operational, Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts]|
|4957||SO||Open Second (64 seats) (1962) [Operational]|
|5034||Saloon||(formerly SO, then TCL 99165) (1962) Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts [Under overhaul]|
|16012||CK||Corridor Composite (1957) (7012, S16012) [Operational]|
|16210||CK||Corridor Composite (1961) (7210) [Operational]|
|21246||BCK||Brake Composite (1962) [Operational]|
|21271||BCK||Brake Composite (1964) (ADB977109)|
|25728||SK||Corridor 2nd (1961) (18728) [Operational]|
|25769||SK||Corridor 2nd (1961) (18769) [Awaiting overhaul]|
|34556||BSK||Brake Corridor 3rd (later 2nd) (1955) [Operational]|
|35207||BSK||Brake Corridor 2nd (1958) [Operational]|
Ex-BR Carriages, now non-traffic vehicles:
|2442||Mk.1 SLC (1961) – QoS “Service Car No.2” 99888 Staff Sleeping Coach – For Sale – please enquire|
|10526||Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo|
|10605||Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo|
|10690||Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo 1 and Photo 2|
|10693||Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo|
|25871||Carriage Shop, (TCL 99161) Ex-Mk.1 SK (1962)|
|TCL 99166||Staff Dormitory, Sheffield Park. Ex-Mk.1 SK (25776) (1961) – For Sale – please enquire|
|BDC 977166||Visitor facilities, East Grinstead. Ex-Mk.1 BSK (35419, later Staff and Generator Coach) (1963)|
BR Electric Multiple Unit Vehicles:
See also the four Metropolitan Railway carriages, above, which are one-time emu vehicles.
|76262, 62236, 70797 & 76263:||4 Vep unit 3417 “Gordon Pettitt” (1967) (7717, 3017) [In care of The Southern Electric Traction Group]|
Passenger Rated Vans
Pre-Grouping passenger-rated Vans
|1||LCDR||Horse Box (1882) (1002, SECR 184) [May be rebuilt after loss in fire]|
|153||SECR||Passenger Luggage Van (PLV) (1922) (1994, DS70031) [Potentially operational]|
|270||LBSCR||Milk/Fruit Van (1908) (2178, 1525S) [Restored but not yet operational]|
|719||SECR||Birdcage Brake Van (1905) (616, 1601S)|
|5498||LSWR||Ventilated Luggage Van (1920) (1584, DS1686)|
Southern Railway Vans and other passenger rated stock
|404||Van C (BY) (4-wheel Guard’s Brake Van) (1937) [Under Overhaul]|
|419||Van C (BY) (1937) (ADB 975548)|
|1184||PLV (4-wheel Passenger Luggage Van, later “PMV”) (1935)|
|2276||Van U (4 wheel Covered Carriage Truck, CCT) (1929)|
|2462||GBL (Gangwayed Bogie Luggage van) (body 1931, u/f 1910) [Potentially operational]|
|2531||4-w CCT (1955) [Operational]|
|4430||6-wheel glass-lined Milk Tank (1933) [Potentially operational]|
|4601||Bogie Scenery Van (equipped for carrying circus elephants) (1949) [Children’s Play Carriage]|
| Further SR vans are also on site, and the bodies of some have already been removed.
These are providing underframes for the restoration of 19th century 4-wheeled carriages.
LMS & BR passenger-rated Vans
|32975||LMS||BGZ (6-wheel Gangwayed Guard’s Brake, Stove R) (1938) [Operational, Pullman livery]|
|87720||BR||12-Ton INSUL-FISH Insulated Fish Van (1960) (083402)|
|6334||BR||BG – HST Barrier Vehicle (ex Gangwayed Full Brake 81478/92128) (1957)|
|86722||BR||bogie GUV – (Post Office NJV 93722) (1959)|
Coaching stock nominally available for service* indicates carriages which will require major overhaul in next few years. LBSCR: 661, 7598; LCDR: 114, 3188, 3360; GNR: Directors' Saloon (LNER 43909) Metropolitan Railway: 387, 394, 368, 412; SECR: 1098; LNWR: Observation Car 1503; LSWR: 1520; LMS: Stove R 32975*; Pullmans: 175 "Fingall", 219 Car No.64 (Christine) SR Maunsell: 1309*, 1336, 6686, Milk Tanker 4430*; SR Bulleid: 1464*, 1482, 2526, 5768 BR: 1674, 1818, 3064, 3069, 4824, 4941, 4957*, 16012, 16210, 21246, 25728*, 34556, 35207, CCT 2531
Carriages undergoing major overhaul
LBSCR 949 – the restoration of this 1881-built brake third, rescued from a farmyard, is nearly complete.
LBSCR 328 – another grounded body under restoration, and like 949 now mounted on a rebuilt SR van underframe.
Pullman 157 “Car 54” – a major project, including the provision of wheelchair access to our Pullman train, this is a 1923-built Pullman Brake carriage.
SR Maunsell 3687 – a Hastings-line brake third, originally brought to the Bluebell to provide spare parts for other restorations, this became a restoration project in its own right. Now moving towards completion.
BR Mk.1 TSO 4754 – an early example of a Mk.1, this carriage came to the Bluebell from the Bicester Military Railway, and is having a thorough overhaul before it enters service.
BR Mk.1 Saloon 5034 – End-structure overhaul complete, now receiving internal refurbishment.
BR Mk.1 RMB 1838 – End-structure overhaul undertaken by external contractors.
Carriages currently receiving heavy maintenance
SR Van C 404 – bodywork refurbishment and fitting out as filming support vehicle
LBSCR Van 270 – following restoration of its bodywork, and the replacement of its wheelsets, a redesign of its brake gear has been necessary, and the work on the brake gear is now underway to make the van operational.
Carriages currently undergoing light overhaul/maintenance
Maunsell Brake Composite 6686 – re-trim of first-class seating in progress.
Bulleid Open 3rd 1482 – re-trim of seating in progress, whilst returned to service for peak periods.
LNWR Observation Car No.1503, LCDR/SECR 3188, 3360 and LBSCR 661: awaiting mechanical attention.
SECR Van 153 – bodywork/doors/roof attention.
The Carriage Exhibition at Horsted Keynes is well worth a visit, and includes a viewing gallery in the carriage works, at the south end of platform 5. Donations collected are now being put towards the eventual overhaul of the SR Maunsell Restaurant car No.7864, and the provision of more urgently needed overhead cover for our carriage stock.On Platform 1 at Horsted Keynes, the Carriage Shop sells various items, including a large range of books, to raise funds for carriage restoration.
Much of the carriage restoration done at Horsted Keynes is undertaken by volunteers. As the above lists show, there is a long line of carriages awaiting our attention. Why not come and join us; drop in for a look around the shed and see what we do! There is all sorts of work available, skilled and unskilled. Learn new skills, or brush up on those you’ve forgotten. There are people around every day. Join the Carriage Restorers and be part of an award winning department! 1309, Pullman ‘Bertha’ (no longer on the Bluebell) and the completed Metropolitan Set have been overall winners of the Heritage Railway Association (HRA) C&W competition, 3363, 32975 and 7598 have won HRA “Coach of the year” awards, and 387, 114, 661, 7598 and 1520 have received other prestigious prizes and awards.
Carriages and Vans which are no longer at the Bluebell Railway:
Caledonian Railway: TK 3339
LNWR: Semi-Royal Saloon 806
LMS: TK 1272
Southern Railway: 4 Cor DMBT 11201, Van C (BY) 442, Van C (BY) 653
Pullman Cars: 278 6 Pul Kitchen Composite “Bertha”, 282 “Brighton Belle” Kitchen 1st “Doris”, 311 Met-Cam Kitchen 1st “Eagle”
British Railways: Mk.I RKB 1566 – photo, Mk.I RU(B) 1987, Mk.I FO 3042, Mk.I FO 3116, Mk.2c FK 13540, Mk.I CK 16263, Mk.I SK 18752, Mk.I SK 24458, Mk.I BSK 35448, Mk.I CL 43010, Mk.I BS 43172, Mk.I SLO 48015 and “Monster” CCT W600W.
Ex-Travelling College train – 12 Mk.1 carriages were purchased in late 1993. Five remain on the Bluebell. The following, which had been converted to dormitories were immediately sold-on: SK 25795, SK 25856 and SK 25994. Subsequently TSO 4921, SK 25853, BCK 21238 and the “New Century Lounge” SK 25778 were also sold for use elsewhere.
Four former “Queen of Scots” Sleeping Cars were hired for use on the Bluebell for a few years from 1992: BR Mk.1 Sleeper First 2110 “State Car No.85”, BR Mk.1 SK 26208 “Imperial State Car No.84”, BR Mk.1 Sleeper First 2108 “State Car No.83” and BR Mk.1 SK 26169 “Imperial State Car No.82”, which all left again after just a few years use.
No.88 (“Service Car No.2”) was purchased, and remains on the Bluebell (see above).
Former SLOA (later FSS) set BN 91 carriages, which were on hire to the Bluebell from April 1990 for a year, were BCK 120 (Sc21236) and FOs 125 Eileen (M3115), 127 Carol (M3117), 128 Beryl (M3130) and 358 (M3108), in addition to 3116 (listed above).
A rake of carriages was hired in 1963 to cover for the Chesham Set being sent to Neasden for the centenary of the Metropolitan Railway. These were Bulleid Brake Composite S6714S, Mk.1 TSO S4381, Bulleid Open Third S1495S, Bulleid Open Third S1473S, Mk.1 TSO S4014 and Mk.1 48-seat Open Second (later reclassified as Open First) S3504. None of these vehicles entered preservation. S3504 was used to supplement the Sheffield Park Buffet seating prior to the arrival of Maunsell 1365.
Copyright © 7 October 1995, and subsequent updates.
Last update 24 September 2020 by Richard Salmon.